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Tuesday, August 07, 2007

 
Is Pi defined in the best way?

Posted by GASARCH

&pi, the ratio of the circumference to the diameter of a circle, is one of the most important constants in Math. However, &pi could just as easily have been defined as the ratio of the circumference to the radius of a circle. This would not change math in any serious way, but it would make some formulas simpler. Think about how often `2*&pi' comes up in formulas.

This theme was explored by Bob Palais in this article. He makes a good case. I look at two examples not in the article, one of which supports his case, and the other is a matter of taste. During this blog I will denote the ratio of Circumference to Radius by PII.

EXAMPLE ONE: Consider the volume and surface area of an n-dim sphere. There is no closed form formula (that I know of) but there is a recursive formula. See this. The following table shows, for each n, the volume of an n-dim sphere divided by Rn.
n Trad Vol/Rn New Vol/n
1 2 2
2 &pi (1/4)*PII
3 (4/3)*&pi (1/6)*PII
4 (1/2)*&pi2 (1/32)*PII2
5 (8/15)*&pi2 (1/60)*PII2
6 (1/6)*&pi3 (1/382)*PII3
7 (16/105)*&pi3 (1/1640)*PII3
Is the New Volume easier or harder? A little easier in that all of the numerators are 1. But no real pattern. Similar is true for surface area. Are these formulas better? That is a matter of taste.

EXAMPLE TWO: The Zeta Function is

&zeta(n) = &sum r-n (The sum is from r=1 to infinity.)

It is known that

&zeta(2n) = (-1)n-1 ((2*&pi)2n/2(2n)!)B2n

where Bn is the nth Bernoulli Number. If we use PII instead we get the simpler

&zeta(2n) = (-1)n-1 ((PII)2n/2(2n)!)B2n

This is BETTER!

3:06 PM #

  1. Anonymous Anonymous says:  
    > There is no closed form formula (that I know of)

    n even: V(2n) = pi^n / n! for n
    n odd: V(2n+1) = pi^n 2^(2n+1) n! / (2n+1)!

  2. Blogger Arvind says:  
    There are some genuine points that he makes. But the issue is at worst a minor pedagogical inconvenience and gets way more attention than it deserves. I've seen it brought up several times already in blogs and magazines.

  3. Actually V(n) = pi^(n/2)/(n/2)! for all n, even and odd. You should use the Gamma function to interpret non-integral factorials. (And just as pi itself is mistakenly half of what it should be, the Gamma function is mistakenly shifted by one.)

  4. Anonymous Anonymous says:  
    limited pi, or

    Pi, 3.1415676 equals 19 divided by 6.047936

  5. Blogger Jose L. says:  
    Currently e to the power pi times i equals minus one. I would hate it if this equation would need mending.

    >>>> JL Balcázar

  6. Blogger Terry says:  
    It may be that 2*pi*i is an even more fundamental constant than 2*pi or pi. It is, after all, the generator of log(1). The fact that so many formulae involving pi^n depend on the parity of n is another clue in this regard.

  7. Blogger KWRegan says:  
    Jose' (greetings!), I've thought about your point as a reason to keep the original definition of pi. But the revised version also gives a sense of perfection and completeness. Compare:

    e^{\pi*i} + 1 = 0

    uses each of {0,1,e,\pi,i,=,+,*,^} exactly once. But

    e^{\PII*i/2} + 1 = 0

    throws in 2 and division without duplicating anything. Subtraction is still missing, but (IMHO) division really has more of a separate character from multiplication as a fundamental mathematical operation, than subtraction has from addition.

    Ah, I see Palais touches on this in his article.

  8. Anonymous Anonymous says:  
    Another equation for limited pi comes from Nicomachus

    2.714258714258714258 = 57/21

    and that's 19 digits. According to numbers that leaves three numbers out of 9...369.

  9. Anonymous Anonymous says:  
    Google says
    pi = 3.14159265

  10. Anonymous Anonymous says:  
    Google doesn't know everything, and neither do I, but I know you can find a perfect circle by following the pattern to limited pi, and it's simple.

    Magic squares, although it's not a magick trick.

  11. Is the upside down Pi symbol used for anything else? If not just use it to denote the ratio of circumference to radius.

  12. Blogger Chiranjeeb says:  
    Sometimes the 2*pi combination appears often enough that people do redefine it. In physics h/(2*pi) appears so many times, it is redefined as hbar ---an 'h' with a slash through it ($\hbar$ in LaTeX). h is of course, Plank's constant.

  13. Blogger KWRegan says:  
    A lemma in a paper I'm writing deals with the distortion between the circular distance angle(x,y) and the straight-line distance |x - y| between two points x,y on the unit circle. The maximum distortion, for antipodal points, is

    \pi/2.

    Not only is this fundamental, but one can contend that the distortion angle(x,y)/|x - y| is the first aspect of circular measurement that concerned the ancients.

    Hence I am agreed that the "true" value of "pi" is off by a factor of 2---but in the opposite direction! ;->

  14. Anonymous Anonymous says:  
    With this new constant

    e^(i * PII) = 1

    However, pi does appear on it's own in a *lot* of equations. You're just picking the ones where it is 2pi and saying "ooo look it would be easier".

    It's easier to write n * pi than pi/n in equations so I'd say they made the right decision. If you really can't stand the 2 in '2 pi r' you can use 'pi d' (diameter) instead.

    Enough of this nonsense.

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